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You can use Cinecanvas XML subtitles in a 24 fps Interop DCP in Fraunhofer Easydcp.Update: You can also use 25 SMPTE XML that get’s converted to SMPTE subtitle MXF, or you could use this trick to use interop subtitles with 25 SMPTE DCPs.
Example test.xml file:
test.xml (right click and use save as)
Some tips:
Remember to save as UTF-8.
Use a text editor like textpad.
http://www.textpad.com/
or notepad ++ http://notepad-plus-plus.org/
You need a font that is not bigger than 640 kb according to the Texas Instruments Cinecanvas Specification posted here:
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?33118-Digital-Cinema-Package&p=709332&viewfull=1#post709332
Place the font with the xml subtitle file.
Easydcp will place it in a special subtitle directory on the DCP.
You need your subtitles in the cinecanvas XML format with 24 fps timecode. Update: You can also use 25 SMPTE XML that will be converted to SMPTE subtitle MXF, or you could use this trick to use interop subtitles with 25 SMPTE DCPs.
VAlign=”bottom” values of 14 and 8 (10 and 16 are also often used) works with Flat and Scope movies, but not with movies which uses top and bottom black padding (letterboxed full container movies in Scope, use 2048×858 for Scope or larger numbers)
If there is only one line it is at 8.
You need to generate a UUID for the subtitleID
http://www.famkruithof.net/uuid/uuidgen
You can not use offsets on subtitles, if your sound and video has an offset
you either have to sync the timecode to that offset or delete frames from the video and sound.
(or choose a later frame as the starting frame, see comments)
A good idea is to split the DCP in reels.
Some subtitles tools:
Subtitle Edit
http://www.belle-nuit.com/subtitler/
Can open many formats and output Cinecanvas XML, use Find and replace in a text editor to
change the output so it looks like the example XML. If it puts single lines at a middle height, change it to 8.
Michael Cinquin Subtitle Tools
Lots of tools, example 1: export Final Cut XML sequences to Belle Nuit subtitler.
Example 2. Export Final Cut XML sequences directly to Cinecanvas XML.
Example 3. Convert SRT to a Final Cut XML sequence and convert that to Cinecanvas Interop XML
Doing versioning.
Update: With Easydcp Creator 2.0 you can just use the MXF files from the first DCP to make another. You can also make supplemental packages that references the original DCP.
Outdated:
When working with subtitles you may need to make fixes or different languages.
To do this faster I extract the jpeg2000 image sequence from the video MXF from the first DCP with asdcp-test
asdcp-test -x picture xxx.j2c.mxf
You can also use Fraunhofer Easydcp Player to extract the image sequence.
In Franhofer Easydcp Creator choose this extracted j2c image sequence as your picture trackfile, right click it, and choose “Color processing” – “bypassed”. And untick Options – Image Processing – Use JPEG2000 Codestream (*.j2c) Reencoding.
Also remember to untick “Automatic letterboxing/pillarboxing” in Options if your movie is Scope, or use larger numbers than 8 and 14.
Hi,
I’ve trying to make DCP with fraunhofer Creator+ with subtitle. However the subtitle won’t show up. I have check the file and everything looks in order and comply to cinecanvas standard. also has include the arial font use in the package, but still no result.
The strange thing is, it took a long time to load the DCP file to the server, more than 1 minute before it finally play the film, without subtitle. Any idea what could be the problem.
Check that the XML is correct.
The example XML should work.
Check that the timecode is correct.
Try another font or smaller version of the font.
Fraunhofer EasyDCP does some checks on the subtitle XML.
But you could try opening the DCP in EasyDCP player and see
if it finds any errors.
The file plays fine in easydcp player, but won’t show the subtitle on gdc. all the subtitle file are exactly like the example, and the timecode is correct. I can check this with easydcpplayer.
I have put the testxml.xml in a zip downloadable zip archive. Remember to save the XML as UTF-8.
Hello,
And what about Annotation Edit ? Will “DLP cinema XML export” work ?
I don’t understand “You need a UUID for the subtitleID” what is it ?
And I discovered that in easyDCP creator +, when you import an image track, if you click on the first image, everything will be imported and you have to change the offset. BUT if you click on an other image (for example the first image of the reel is number 240), it will import from this image until the end AND without offset.
Best
Robin
You can use the filename as annotation text.
The XML has an unique identifier
c85df020-6ad6-11e0-ae3e-0800200c9a66
The identifier is a UUID that be generated by a UUID generator.
You need to make a new one for each reel in each DCP.
For multiple reels – should the subtitle TC reference the reel or the running time of the composition in easyDCP?
The subtitle timecode should reference the reel.
On Subtitles: first of all, thx Knutfor this great blog. And also to mention Michael Cinquin, for the tools he provides for free. I´m having great trouble with some Dolby DSS D-cinema servers that won’t show subtitles (created on EasyDCP, according to all instructions, and testing on the easyDCP Palyer, subtitles are fine. It’s an interop package). I heard these servers won’t render the subtitles, this is the projector’s job. Anyone can shed a light on this? Also I’m aware that some companies provide these cinemas (this one in particular) with an ” apart” file containg only the subtitles. The projectionist wasn’t able to tell me wich kind of file it was, but he said it was the only way to work. When the receive a DCP, they also receive another file with the subtitles… How can this be done? Another xml with the same length and subtile placement as the DCP? Do I have to create another CPL for this and how? Thanks if anyone can shed a lIght on this.
The subtitles made from the Michael Cinquin tool and the example XML file will play on a Dolby DSS D-cinema server. But the XML must be well formed, if you open it in firefox you will see if all the tags are well formed. You can make a supplemental packages in Easydcp Creator 2.0. Supplemental packages are used to make different versions of a DCP. The supplemental package could include new sound or subtitles. When ingested on a server the Supplemental package uses the picture part from the original DCP that is on the server and add subtitles to make a new DCP that shows up alongside the original DCP, but with a new name that now says it has subtitles like EN-NO.
On knuterik note: thnak you for your help. My XML was well formed, according to all instrucitons, and we are suspicious of this “apart” file the movie theater is receiving. I understand the suplemntal DCP, and I don’t think is the issue here. I think they ‘re delivering another DCP with the subtitles burnt in the image, to circunvent some Cinecanvas restricions the cinema might have or worng installation, or a Dss200 server that is not up to date on it`s software, because I’ve tested (at the same multiplex) the DCP on a DSS100 server, and the subtitles displayed fine. Does anyone have a particular font that is safe to use with DCPs, regarding incompatibilities with server? I use the Tiresias font, but I heard some Dolby servers can be picky about fonts. Wich fonts, smaller than 640k, you might sugest?
Hi everybody,
Do you know that EasyDCP Creator software is now interoperable with the JPEG2000 acceleration card from intoPIX , called the PRISTINE. It said that it can encode 4K real-time and 2K at about 50/60fps.
Interesting.
Fraunhofer and Intopix present DCP creation with real-time JPEG 2000 coding