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		<title>Comment on Tips on DCP resolutions and some other things by knuterik</title>
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		<dc:creator>knuterik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. Scope does not mask out pixels from 1998 to 2048.

At this lens searcher website from Sony you can see that projectors and masking is programmed with a minimum of Scope and Flat presets and that theatres are either constant height or constant width: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://assets.sonybiz.net/Web/DCinema/10-02-17%20DCinema%20Lens%20Finder/TheatreLensSearcher/information.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
http://assets.sonybiz.net/Web/DCinema/10-02-17%20DCinema%20Lens%20Finder/TheatreLensSearcher/information.html&lt;/a&gt;

You can also see that some cinemas have both side and top masking.  A constant height theatre could also have top masking so theoretically a 2:1 ratio film in a Flat container could be masked. Presets for masking 1.33:1 and 1.777:1 is common. 2048 x 1080 will not fit any of the presets. A custom preset could be made in a common height theatre if you program the side masking to go a little further than flat and remove the option to mask away pixels beyond 1998 in the projector. In a constant width theatre the custom preset could be programmed to use the same zoom as the scope preset, remove the masking of pixels beyond 858 in the projector and make a custom top masking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Scope does not mask out pixels from 1998 to 2048.</p>
<p>At this lens searcher website from Sony you can see that projectors and masking is programmed with a minimum of Scope and Flat presets and that theatres are either constant height or constant width: </p>
<p><a href="http://assets.sonybiz.net/Web/DCinema/10-02-17%20DCinema%20Lens%20Finder/TheatreLensSearcher/information.html" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://assets.sonybiz.net/Web/DCinema/10-02-17%20DCinema%20Lens%20Finder/TheatreLensSearcher/information.html" rel="nofollow">http://assets.sonybiz.net/Web/DCinema/10-02-17%20DCinema%20Lens%20Finder/TheatreLensSearcher/information.html</a></p>
<p>You can also see that some cinemas have both side and top masking.  A constant height theatre could also have top masking so theoretically a 2:1 ratio film in a Flat container could be masked. Presets for masking 1.33:1 and 1.777:1 is common. 2048 x 1080 will not fit any of the presets. A custom preset could be made in a common height theatre if you program the side masking to go a little further than flat and remove the option to mask away pixels beyond 1998 in the projector. In a constant width theatre the custom preset could be programmed to use the same zoom as the scope preset, remove the masking of pixels beyond 858 in the projector and make a custom top masking.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tips on DCP resolutions and some other things by John Klos</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Klos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re saying that most if not all theaters mask out the video from 1998 to 2048 which means I need to remake all of my DCPs else they&#039;ll get cut off on the edges.

Regarding the scope, no. 2048x858 is approximately 2.39 (2.387), and the original film was 2.35; the decision was made to not crop more off the top and bottom to make it 2.39. This has nothing to do with any theater; this was a decision made by the filmmaker.

I don&#039;t understand either the rationale or the description in the DCP documentation regarding the fact that anything from 1998 to 2048 is cropped. Is this how DCPs are, and the documentation is incomplete, or is this just your personal experience with the theaters in which you&#039;ve projected? The only reason I&#039;m harping on this is because I can&#039;t find any other source of information which states unequivocally that 2048x1080 is always cropped.

I suppose in order to do things properly, I&#039;ll have to make a test pattern so I can see what gets cut off where and bring it with me to each theater... Can&#039;t we ever have ANY standard which is consistent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re saying that most if not all theaters mask out the video from 1998 to 2048 which means I need to remake all of my DCPs else they&#8217;ll get cut off on the edges.</p>
<p>Regarding the scope, no. 2048&#215;858 is approximately 2.39 (2.387), and the original film was 2.35; the decision was made to not crop more off the top and bottom to make it 2.39. This has nothing to do with any theater; this was a decision made by the filmmaker.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand either the rationale or the description in the DCP documentation regarding the fact that anything from 1998 to 2048 is cropped. Is this how DCPs are, and the documentation is incomplete, or is this just your personal experience with the theaters in which you&#8217;ve projected? The only reason I&#8217;m harping on this is because I can&#8217;t find any other source of information which states unequivocally that 2048&#215;1080 is always cropped.</p>
<p>I suppose in order to do things properly, I&#8217;ll have to make a test pattern so I can see what gets cut off where and bring it with me to each theater&#8230; Can&#8217;t we ever have ANY standard which is consistent?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tips on DCP resolutions and some other things by knuterik</title>
		<link>http://www.knuterikevensen.com/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>knuterik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All digital cinema projectors have presets for Flat (1998x1080) and Scope (2048x858).
In a constant height theatre the resolution, side masking and zoom changes when projecting the two presets.
The flat preset has 1080 pixels in height, the Scope preset has 858 pixels in height. 
When going from Flat to Scope the lens zooms and the masking widens.
The pixels beyond 858 would have hit above the screen if they were not masked in the projector. 
The flat preset has 1998 pixels in length, the Scope preset has 2048 pixels in length.
When screening 2048x858 in Flat the pixels beyond 1998 is masked in the projector
and the image is letterboxed. 
That is why you have to scale 2048x1024 down to fit the Flat preset or crop it
to fit the Scope preset even though 2K is 2048x1080.
You should always avoid black padding/letterboxing, it kills the contrast.
That is why 1998x1080 or 2048x858 should be your target.

It seems you have been to a constant width theatre were Scope is much smaller than
Flat. This is a terrible solution. But the common width theatre could also just have presets
for Scope and Flat. Those should always be your targets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All digital cinema projectors have presets for Flat (1998&#215;1080) and Scope (2048&#215;858).<br />
In a constant height theatre the resolution, side masking and zoom changes when projecting the two presets.<br />
The flat preset has 1080 pixels in height, the Scope preset has 858 pixels in height.<br />
When going from Flat to Scope the lens zooms and the masking widens.<br />
The pixels beyond 858 would have hit above the screen if they were not masked in the projector.<br />
The flat preset has 1998 pixels in length, the Scope preset has 2048 pixels in length.<br />
When screening 2048&#215;858 in Flat the pixels beyond 1998 is masked in the projector<br />
and the image is letterboxed.<br />
That is why you have to scale 2048&#215;1024 down to fit the Flat preset or crop it<br />
to fit the Scope preset even though 2K is 2048&#215;1080.<br />
You should always avoid black padding/letterboxing, it kills the contrast.<br />
That is why 1998&#215;1080 or 2048&#215;858 should be your target.</p>
<p>It seems you have been to a constant width theatre were Scope is much smaller than<br />
Flat. This is a terrible solution. But the common width theatre could also just have presets<br />
for Scope and Flat. Those should always be your targets.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tips on DCP resolutions and some other things by John Klos</title>
		<link>http://www.knuterikevensen.com/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>John Klos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little confused; perhaps you could help me out.

Maybe I&#039;m reading this wrong, but you seem to be implying that the pixels beyond 1998 aren&#039;t used or shouldn&#039;t be used. I was under the impression that one could just treat a 2k DCP projection as 2048x1080 square pixels and either pillar or letterbox as needed:

2:1 would be 2048x1080 with 28 lines of letterboxing on the the top and bottom;
1.85 would be 1998x1080 with 25 pixels of pillarboxing on the left and right;
1.77 would be 1920x1080 with 64 pixels of pillarboxing on the left and right.

Why would, as you said above (&quot;If all the 2048×1024 information is vital scale to a 1998×1080 container&quot;...) anyone want to scale down to 1998 from 2048, then increase the letterboxing as opposed to just creating a 2048x1080 letterboxed 2:1?

I ask because I&#039;ve recently just created exactly that - a 2048x1080 DCP letterboxed from a 2048x1024 source.

I&#039;ve also created a 2.35 aspect 2048x870 DCP which I&#039;ve letterboxed into a 2048x1080 because the creator didn&#039;t want it cropped to 2.39 (2048x858); the theater where it was projected simply masked it without masking all the way to 2.39, so I wonder if I&#039;m missing something when I interpret what you write to imply that one should prefer 1998x1080 containers and one shouldn&#039;t letterbox if at all possible.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little confused; perhaps you could help me out.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m reading this wrong, but you seem to be implying that the pixels beyond 1998 aren&#8217;t used or shouldn&#8217;t be used. I was under the impression that one could just treat a 2k DCP projection as 2048&#215;1080 square pixels and either pillar or letterbox as needed:</p>
<p>2:1 would be 2048&#215;1080 with 28 lines of letterboxing on the the top and bottom;<br />
1.85 would be 1998&#215;1080 with 25 pixels of pillarboxing on the left and right;<br />
1.77 would be 1920&#215;1080 with 64 pixels of pillarboxing on the left and right.</p>
<p>Why would, as you said above (&#8220;If all the 2048×1024 information is vital scale to a 1998×1080 container&#8221;&#8230;) anyone want to scale down to 1998 from 2048, then increase the letterboxing as opposed to just creating a 2048&#215;1080 letterboxed 2:1?</p>
<p>I ask because I&#8217;ve recently just created exactly that &#8211; a 2048&#215;1080 DCP letterboxed from a 2048&#215;1024 source.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also created a 2.35 aspect 2048&#215;870 DCP which I&#8217;ve letterboxed into a 2048&#215;1080 because the creator didn&#8217;t want it cropped to 2.39 (2048&#215;858); the theater where it was projected simply masked it without masking all the way to 2.39, so I wonder if I&#8217;m missing something when I interpret what you write to imply that one should prefer 1998&#215;1080 containers and one shouldn&#8217;t letterbox if at all possible.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to make a SMPTE 25 fps (or 30 fps) DCP (Digital Cinema Package) with Fraunhofer Easydcp 1.3 by knuterik</title>
		<link>http://www.knuterikevensen.com/?p=105&#038;cpage=1#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>knuterik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have 1.85 (1920x1038)  inside a 1920x1080  container you should zoom it to 1998x1080. If you have 1.777 16/9 1920 x 1080 you could add black padding on the sides to get 1998x1080.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have 1.85 (1920&#215;1038)  inside a 1920&#215;1080  container you should zoom it to 1998&#215;1080. If you have 1.777 16/9 1920 x 1080 you could add black padding on the sides to get 1998&#215;1080.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to make a SMPTE 25 fps (or 30 fps) DCP (Digital Cinema Package) with Fraunhofer Easydcp 1.3 by Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.

I have a question. If I have a 1920 x 1080 movie in 1.85:1 and I export it to a tiff sequence in 1998 x 1080, do I have to zoom the picture as well or should I add some black padding in left and right side to prevent the the image from being stretched vertically?

Best,
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>
<p>I have a question. If I have a 1920 x 1080 movie in 1.85:1 and I export it to a tiff sequence in 1998 x 1080, do I have to zoom the picture as well or should I add some black padding in left and right side to prevent the the image from being stretched vertically?</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to make dpx and wav files that can be converted to a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) with Fraunhofer EasyDCP Creator using Final Cut Studio 3 by Craig Cobb</title>
		<link>http://www.knuterikevensen.com/?p=24&#038;cpage=1#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success!  The trailer worked at the cinema!  Thanks guys!
Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success!  The trailer worked at the cinema!  Thanks guys!<br />
Craig</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to make dpx and wav files that can be converted to a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) with Fraunhofer EasyDCP Creator using Final Cut Studio 3 by Craig Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, after a LOT of installing and re-installing both macports and imagemagick, I found the problem.  Someone had posted the same error message I got on installing imagemagick involving the directory where it was looking for things.  Basically I downloaded the archive, unzipped it and placed in the top level directory of my hard-drive, not in my user &quot;home&quot; directory.  My .dpx s are all converted now.

I just ran my first test with easyDCP and ended up with something that looked like a DCP.  Now I&#039;ll do the trailer I&#039;ve been working on and tomorrow I&#039;ll take it to a cinema and see if it works.

Thanks again, guys.  This is a great thing to be able to do.

Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, after a LOT of installing and re-installing both macports and imagemagick, I found the problem.  Someone had posted the same error message I got on installing imagemagick involving the directory where it was looking for things.  Basically I downloaded the archive, unzipped it and placed in the top level directory of my hard-drive, not in my user &#8220;home&#8221; directory.  My .dpx s are all converted now.</p>
<p>I just ran my first test with easyDCP and ended up with something that looked like a DCP.  Now I&#8217;ll do the trailer I&#8217;ve been working on and tomorrow I&#8217;ll take it to a cinema and see if it works.</p>
<p>Thanks again, guys.  This is a great thing to be able to do.</p>
<p>Craig</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to make dpx and wav files that can be converted to a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) with Fraunhofer EasyDCP Creator using Final Cut Studio 3 by Craig Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Eric, That helps a lot.  You guys are great for getting this info out there.  BUt I&#039;m still running into some issues.  I ran the echo command string you posted and got this:

[hal-mbp2oo8:~/desktop/1] craigcobb% find . -iname &quot;*.dpx&quot; -exec echo mogrify -format dpx &quot;{}&quot; \;
mogrify -format dpx ./Altshotscolortest_g1.0000000.dpx
mogrify -format dpx ./Altshotscolortest_g1.0000001.dpx
...

But when I ran the actual string to mogrify the files (double-checking for simple quotes), I get this:

[hal-mbp2oo8:~/desktop/1] craigcobb% find . -iname &quot;*.dpx&quot; -exec mogrify -format dpx &quot;{}&quot; \;
find: mogrify: No such file or directory
find: mogrify: No such file or directory
...

Any ideas?  I double-checked that imagemagick was installed, and it appears that everything is there.  The &quot;echo&quot; command is a &quot;dry run&quot; and wouldn&#039;t have worked if something was wrong, no?

You guys are my heros.  :-)

Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Eric, That helps a lot.  You guys are great for getting this info out there.  BUt I&#8217;m still running into some issues.  I ran the echo command string you posted and got this:</p>
<p>[hal-mbp2oo8:~/desktop/1] craigcobb% find . -iname &#8220;*.dpx&#8221; -exec echo mogrify -format dpx &#8220;{}&#8221; \;<br />
mogrify -format dpx ./Altshotscolortest_g1.0000000.dpx<br />
mogrify -format dpx ./Altshotscolortest_g1.0000001.dpx<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>But when I ran the actual string to mogrify the files (double-checking for simple quotes), I get this:</p>
<p>[hal-mbp2oo8:~/desktop/1] craigcobb% find . -iname &#8220;*.dpx&#8221; -exec mogrify -format dpx &#8220;{}&#8221; \;<br />
find: mogrify: No such file or directory<br />
find: mogrify: No such file or directory<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>Any ideas?  I double-checked that imagemagick was installed, and it appears that everything is there.  The &#8220;echo&#8221; command is a &#8220;dry run&#8221; and wouldn&#8217;t have worked if something was wrong, no?</p>
<p>You guys are my heros.  <img src='http://www.knuterikevensen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Craig</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to make dpx and wav files that can be converted to a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) with Fraunhofer EasyDCP Creator using Final Cut Studio 3 by Eirik Schwenke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eirik Schwenke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

the command was a quick hack, based on a different more complicated script, and was whipped up in a second while we were working on converting a demo in time for a screening.

It is a bit easier to debug if you rewrite it like this:

find . -iname “*.dpx” -exec mogrify -format dpx “{}” \;

Note also that OS X rewrites regular quotes (like you get from shift-2 on most keyboards/setups&quot; to pretty typographic quotes when you copy-paste text.

To try to figure out what&#039;s wrong, start out by trying to just run the mogrify-command by hand:

mogrify

If that works, try to see if find, finds your files:

find . -iname “*.dpx”

If that also works, echo can help with debugging the command line:

find . -iname “*.dpx” -exec echo mogrify -format dpx “{}” \;
#Note the above command does nothing with the files, it just lists the
#commands find would run on the files that match the pattern.

Hope that helps.

-Eirik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>the command was a quick hack, based on a different more complicated script, and was whipped up in a second while we were working on converting a demo in time for a screening.</p>
<p>It is a bit easier to debug if you rewrite it like this:</p>
<p>find . -iname “*.dpx” -exec mogrify -format dpx “{}” \;</p>
<p>Note also that OS X rewrites regular quotes (like you get from shift-2 on most keyboards/setups&#8221; to pretty typographic quotes when you copy-paste text.</p>
<p>To try to figure out what&#8217;s wrong, start out by trying to just run the mogrify-command by hand:</p>
<p>mogrify</p>
<p>If that works, try to see if find, finds your files:</p>
<p>find . -iname “*.dpx”</p>
<p>If that also works, echo can help with debugging the command line:</p>
<p>find . -iname “*.dpx” -exec echo mogrify -format dpx “{}” \;<br />
#Note the above command does nothing with the files, it just lists the<br />
#commands find would run on the files that match the pattern.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>-Eirik</p>
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